{"id":8809,"date":"2025-12-16T16:10:30","date_gmt":"2025-12-16T14:10:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tonmeister.ca\/wordpress\/?p=8809"},"modified":"2025-12-16T21:50:00","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T19:50:00","slug":"loudspeaker-crossovers-part-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.tonmeister.ca\/wordpress\/2025\/12\/16\/loudspeaker-crossovers-part-16\/","title":{"rendered":"Loudspeaker Crossovers: Part 16"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This posting is just wrapping up the series. No more plots&#8230; I promise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, this entire series has focused the &#8220;greatest hits&#8221; of the crossover club which is a limited number of crossover types. There are many other options that I haven&#8217;t talked about, but my point was not to explain how to choose and design a crossover for a loudspeaker for the DIY&#8217;er. It was to <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>give a primer on some of the things to consider when implementing a crossover<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>instil instinctive suspicion and doubt when you read an advertisement (or a comment on the Internet) that says something like &#8220;this loudspeaker is good (or bad) because it has THIS kind of crossover.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>There are plenty of things that I didn&#8217;t (and won&#8217;t) talk about, such as:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Crossovers for loudspeakers with more than two outputs<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Other crossover designs. For example, as a start, search for:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Malcom Hawksford Asymmetrical Crossover<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Malcom Hawksford discussion of stochastic crossovers associated with DMLs<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkwitzlab.com\/crossovers.htm\">Linkwitz&#8217;s page on crossover design<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/secure.aes.org\/forum\/pubs\/journal\/?elib=2214\">&#8220;Constant-Voltage Crossover Network Design&#8221; by Richard Small<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>On thing that I intentionally avoided was crossover designs that use filters with extremely high orders, sometimes called &#8220;brick wall&#8221; crossovers. On paper, they avoid the possible issues with a signal in a given frequency band coming from two sources (e.g. a woofer and a tweeter), so if you ONLY consider them from this perspective, they&#8217;re a good idea. However, in my opinion, this is outweighed by the facts that you will probably get a discontinuity in the power response (unless the two drivers have identical three-dimensional radiation patterns at the crossover frequency) AND you will probably have a complete mess in the time domain. Bonkers-order filters aren&#8217;t free. (If you clicked on the link to Linkwitz&#8217;s page, above and just taken a quick glance, then you&#8217;ve probably read the statement at the top of the page that says &#8220;<em>The sum of acoustic lowpass and highpass outputs must have allpass behavior without high Q peaks in the group delay.<\/em>&#8221; One way to look at the group delay of a filter is to look at the slope of the phase response. If you make a crossover with really high-order filters, then one of the artefacts will be a high slope in the phase response around the crossover frequency.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One other thing that I have not mentioned is the incorrect naming that is often associated with crossovers and filters in general. Many people say &#8220;FIR Filter&#8221; (Finite Impulse Response) when they actually mean &#8220;Linear phase filter&#8221;. It&#8217;s important to remember that you can&#8217;t have a linear phase filter without an FIR filter implementation, but certainly not all FIR filters are linear phase. (Weirdly, a linear phase filter does, in fact, have an infinite impulse response, both forwards and backwards in time&#8230; But that&#8217;s a description of the filter&#8217;s response and not how it would be implemented in a DSP-based signal flow.) This incorrect usage drives me nuts. (Then again, many things like this do. For example, I get annoyed when HR people draw a triangle on a whiteboard and call it a pyramid. You never know what&#8217;s going to set me off on a pedantic rant about nomenclature.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other thing that I didn&#8217;t talk about was another way to look at a Butterworth two-way crossover, in which you see it as lacking a component in the s-domain (using Laplace analysis), which is the reason its sum has an allpass characteristic. If you add the missing component (for example, using a third loudspeaker driver), then the allpass behaviour disappears. This is the concept behind Bang &amp; OIufsen&#8217;s &#8220;Uni-phase&#8221; series of loudspeakers in the 1970s and 1980s. If you want to learn more about this, I&#8217;ve already written about it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tonmeister.ca\/wordpress\/2015\/10\/29\/bo-tech-uni-phase-loudspeakers\/\">here<\/a>, and Erik B\u00e6kgaard&#8217;s original paper from 1977 describing the idea more fully can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/secure.aes.org\/forum\/pubs\/journal\/?elib=3371\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, hopefully, you won&#8217;t come away from all of this with a conclusion that one crossover is the winner. A crossover is just one component in a long series- and parallel-chain of components that make up a loudspeaker. Changing any of the other components may require making a different decision about another. And, in order to make that decision, you can&#8217;t just consider the on-axis response (unless you live alone in an anechoic chamber (or outdoors&#8230;). You also need to think about things like<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>the off-axis responses<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>the power response<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>the phase response<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>the time response<br>and maybe also<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>the implications on latency<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>your required signal processing power (e.g. in MIPS)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>maybe some other stuff if you have checked all those boxes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, after all this, you should also know that you can&#8217;t just implement a crossover ignoring everything else in the chain, and think that it&#8217;ll just work. It won&#8217;t.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This posting is just wrapping up the series. No more plots&#8230; I promise. Of course, this entire series has focused the &#8220;greatest hits&#8221; of the crossover club which is a limited number of crossover types. 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